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03/09/2021 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:37:02 PM Start
01:38:37 PM HB69 || HB71
01:52:48 PM Presentation: Mental Health Trust Authority Fy 22 Budget and Reserves Summary
03:00:39 PM Presentation: Aidea Fy 22 Budget, Reserve and Credit Summary
04:00:03 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 69 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 71 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Presentations: TELECONFERENCED
Mental Health Trust Authority FY 22 Budget &
Reserves Summary by
- Mental Health Trust Authority
- Mike Abbot, Chief Exec. Officer, Alaska Mental
Health Trust Authority
- Christopher Cooke, Chairman, Board of Trustees
AIDEA FY 22 Budget, Reserve & Credit Summary by
Alaska Industrial Development & Export Authority
(AIDEA)
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 69                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;    making   reappropriations;    making                                                                    
     supplemental   appropriations;  making   appropriations                                                                    
     under art.  IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State                                                                    
     of  Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                    
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 71                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive    mental    health    program;    making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations;  and   providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:38:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick MOVED to ADOPT the proposed committee                                                                          
substitute for HB 69, Work Draft 32-GH1509\B (Marx,                                                                             
2/23/21).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
BRODIE   ANDERSON,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   NEAL   FOSTER,                                                                    
explained that the only change in  Version B of the bill was                                                                    
conforming the  original governor's bill to  the committee's                                                                    
legal drafting  manual and style  used by  Legislative Legal                                                                    
Services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  further OBJECTION,  Work Draft  32-GH1509\B                                                                    
for HB 69 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:40:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  MOVED  to ADOPT  the  proposed  committee                                                                    
substitute  for   HB  69,  Work  Draft   32-GH1509\I  (Marx,                                                                    
2/23/21).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson  relayed that there was  one substantive change                                                                    
along with other technical changes  between Versions B and I                                                                    
of  the  bill.  He  detailed  that  the  substantive  change                                                                    
involved   distributing    salary   adjustments   originally                                                                    
included in the executive  branch-wide appropriations in the                                                                    
governor's bill to the  individual departments and agencies.                                                                    
He  explained that  the change  aligned with  the Office  of                                                                    
Management and Budget (OMB) reports.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  stated Mr. Anderson was  looking at Version                                                                    
I.  He asked  Mr.  Anderson  to share  the  location he  was                                                                    
referring to.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson  directed members'  attention to  a Legislative                                                                    
Finance Division  (LFD) document titled "2021  Legislature -                                                                    
Operating Budget Agency Summary  - Governor Structure" dated                                                                    
4/3/21 (copy on file).                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Ortiz   restated   the   document   title   for                                                                    
verification.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Anderson   agreed.  He  pointed  to   column  1,  which                                                                    
reflected Versions  A and B  of the bill. He  drew attention                                                                    
to  the row  titled "Executive  Branch-wide Approps"  in the                                                                    
amount of  $11.1 million (highlighted in  yellow). He stated                                                                    
the item  reflected the governor's  original bill  Version A                                                                    
converted to  Version B. Column  2 reflected  the structural                                                                    
salary adjustment  changes by  allocating the  $11.1 million                                                                    
to the  appropriate departments. Column 3  was reflective of                                                                    
Version I  of the  bill. He  highlighted that  the executive                                                                    
branch-wide  appropriations total  had  changed  to $0.0  in                                                                    
column 3. He  noted that between columns 1 and  2, the total                                                                    
was $13.4 million reflected in column 3.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  observed that  there  were  no changes  to                                                                    
dollar amounts. The  only change was where  the dollars were                                                                    
directed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson replied in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson  continued to review  the changes in  Version I                                                                    
of  the bill.  He  detailed that  the  technical changes  in                                                                    
Version  I  of the  bill  corrected  an appropriation  order                                                                    
requested by  OMB. There were some  inadvertent changes that                                                                    
occurred during OMB's development  and OMB had requested the                                                                    
committee change  the language  back to the  previous year's                                                                    
budget  structure.  The  information   was  reflected  in  a                                                                    
document  labeled  at  the  bottom  as  Legislative  Finance                                                                    
Division  by  request of  Office  of  Management and  Budget                                                                    
dated  3/8/21   [titled  "HB  69  OMB   Requested  Structure                                                                    
Differences"](copy  on file).  The first  column showed  the                                                                    
departments and  divisions, and  the second  column included                                                                    
the previous FY  21 appropriation in order  of appearance in                                                                    
the  bill. He  relayed  that when  the administration  first                                                                    
rolled out the FY 22 budget  it had moved the divisions into                                                                    
a  new  location. He  explained  that  OMB had  subsequently                                                                    
asked LFD to revert back to  the previous order in the FY 21                                                                    
and historical structure.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:44:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  looked  at the  operating  budget                                                                    
agency  summary  and  observed   that  all  of  the  numbers                                                                    
appeared  to  be   the  same  with  the   exception  of  the                                                                    
Department of  Health and Social  Services (DHSS).  He asked                                                                    
why  there appeared  to be  an  addition for  DHSS with  the                                                                    
salary adjustments.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Anderson answered  that in  Version I,  there were  two                                                                    
rows that  included totals outside of  the executive branch-                                                                    
wide appropriations,  including DHSS  in the amount  of $1.6                                                                    
million  and  Judiciary  in  the   amount  of  $597,000.  He                                                                    
explained  that the  larger numbers  reflected  in column  3                                                                    
[for each  of the  aforementioned departments]  included the                                                                    
amounts in column  1 in addition to  the distributed amounts                                                                    
shown  in  column   2.  He  deferred  to   OMB  for  further                                                                    
explanation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  for  verification that  the                                                                    
$2.3 million for DHSS in column  2 was included in the $11.1                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson replied in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen  asked  which pages  in  the  bill                                                                    
reflected the changes listed in  the operating budget agency                                                                    
summary.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Anderson responded  that he  would follow  up with  the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:47:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  further OBJECTION,  Work Draft  32-GH1509\I                                                                    
for HB 69 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:47:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  MOVED  to ADOPT  the  proposed  committee                                                                    
substitute  for   HB  71,  Work  Draft   32-GH1508\B  (Marx,                                                                    
2/23/21).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson  relayed that the  only change in version  B of                                                                    
HB 71  was conforming  the governor's  original bill  to the                                                                    
legislative legal drafting manual and style.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster   asked  if   there  were   numerous  small                                                                    
conforming changes or a handful of substantive changes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson answered that there  were changes on most pages                                                                    
of the  legislation, but they  were small and  technical and                                                                    
did not include anything substantive.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  further OBJECTION,  Work Draft  32-GH1508\B                                                                    
for HB 71 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:49:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  MOVED  to ADOPT  the  proposed  committee                                                                    
substitute  for   HB  71,  Work  Draft   32-GH1508\I  (Marx,                                                                    
2/23/21).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson  relayed there was only  one substantive change                                                                    
between Versions B  and I of HB 71. He  explained the change                                                                    
related to  distributing the salary adjustments  specific to                                                                    
the mental health  budget. He directed attention  to page 2,                                                                    
lines 12 through  14 of Version I. He  referenced the totals                                                                    
shown  in black  and  the  corresponding numbers  underneath                                                                    
reflecting   agency    totals   for   the    Department   of                                                                    
Administration's  legal and  advocacy services.  He detailed                                                                    
that  compared  to Version  B,  the  totals were  different.                                                                    
There were  no structural changes  to the bill.  The purpose                                                                    
was to  conform to OMB's  reports that reflected  the salary                                                                    
adjustments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  for  verification that  the                                                                    
changes did not include the governor's amendments.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson replied in the  affirmative. He elaborated that                                                                    
subcommittees  were   in  the  process  of   addressing  the                                                                    
governor's  amendments that  had been  issued on  [February]                                                                    
15.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  asked   for  verification   that                                                                    
subcommittees would address  amendments but not supplemental                                                                    
items.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson  agreed. He added that  supplemental items fell                                                                    
under  the   House  Finance  Committee's  purview   via  the                                                                    
supplemental bill.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There being NO  OBJECTION, Work Draft 32-GH1508\I  for HB 71                                                                    
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB  69  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  71  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: MENTAL  HEALTH TRUST  AUTHORITY FY  22 BUDGET                                                                  
AND RESERVES SUMMARY                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:52:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked members to  hold questions  until the                                                                    
end of the presentation.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS COOKE, CHAIR, BOARD OF  TRUSTEES, ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH                                                                    
TRUST  AUTHORITY  (via teleconference),  introduced  himself                                                                    
and  the  Alaska  Mental   Health  Trust  Authority  (AMHTA)                                                                    
trustees.  He  provided  a  PowerPoint  presentation  titled                                                                    
"Trust: Alaska Mental Health  Trust Authority: House Finance                                                                    
Committee," dated  March 9, 2021  (copy on file).  He shared                                                                    
that  the  AMHTA's  purpose was  to  administer  the  Alaska                                                                    
Mental Health  Trust, a perpetual  trust aimed  at improving                                                                    
the lives of its  beneficiaries. He noted that beneficiaries                                                                    
were identified  in AMHTA's enabling legislation.  He shared                                                                    
that the  corpus of the  trust consisted of money  and land,                                                                    
specifically  the  Mental Health  Trust  Fund,  held by  and                                                                    
managed  by the  Alaska Permanent  Fund Corporation  (APFC).                                                                    
The trust's  land consisted of  close to 1 million  acres of                                                                    
Alaska  land, managed  by the  Trust Land  Office under  the                                                                    
supervision of the Department of Natural Resources (DNR).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cooke elaborated that from  the resources the trust drew                                                                    
annual income on  a sustained basis in a  manner provided by                                                                    
its  asset management  policy to  provide for  the needs  of                                                                    
beneficiaries  pursuant  to  Alaska's  comprehensive  mental                                                                    
health program  plan. The trust  had a  role as a  funder of                                                                    
programs to improve the lives  of beneficiaries. He reported                                                                    
that the previous year, the  trust had granted more than $21                                                                    
million  to its  partners  helping  to fund  community-based                                                                    
projects  and   initiatives,  including   significant  trust                                                                    
income that  went to state  departments to  assist statewide                                                                    
programs  and accomplish  system  change efforts  statewide.                                                                    
Additionally,  the trust  had a  program for  mini-grants to                                                                    
individuals to  help improve quality of  life, independence,                                                                    
and opportunity  for beneficiaries.  The trust  was thankful                                                                    
for its statewide network of  grantees and partners who lent                                                                    
their expertise and efforts to  improving outcomes for trust                                                                    
beneficiaries.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cooke stated  that in  addition to  providing funds  to                                                                    
nonprofit agencies,  local communities, state  entities, and                                                                    
individual beneficiaries,  the trust provided  leadership in                                                                    
matters  of  advocacy  planning   and  implementing  of  the                                                                    
comprehensive  integrative mental  health  program plan  for                                                                    
beneficiaries.  The trust  had supported  many system-change                                                                    
efforts  including reforms  as to  how the  state's Medicaid                                                                    
program  funded behavioral  health  and addiction  services.                                                                    
Most  currently, efforts  were under  development to  ensure                                                                    
Alaskans  experiencing  a   psychiatric  crisis  would  have                                                                    
access to the right kind of  services, at the right time, in                                                                    
the right place.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:58:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cooke stated that thanks  to the leadership of the AMHTA                                                                    
board (all board members were  long-term Alaskans and served                                                                    
voluntarily)  and staff,  the trust  remained  in a  healthy                                                                    
financial  position  bolstered   by  strong  performance  in                                                                    
financial markets and in the  lands and resources managed by                                                                    
the trust.  The trust  endeavored to  develop its  lands and                                                                    
resources to benefit  its beneficiaries and to  see that the                                                                    
resources  were productively  used in  Alaska. He  explained                                                                    
that  the  strong  position allowed  the  trust  to  advance                                                                    
beneficiary priorities and balance  the needs of current and                                                                    
future beneficiaries.  He was  proud of  the work  the staff                                                                    
had done  over the  past year  during the  COVID-19 pandemic                                                                    
and  in   supporting  the  trust's  partners   by  carefully                                                                    
managing its assets and providing  valuable help and support                                                                    
to  beneficiaries.   He  thanked   the  committee   for  the                                                                    
opportunity  to testify.  He relayed  that  the trust's  CEO                                                                    
Mike Abbott would provide additional  detail. He shared that                                                                    
Mr. Abbott had  been with AMHTA for several  years and board                                                                    
members had  seen dramatic improvement in  the operations of                                                                    
the trust and its programs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:00:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE ABBOTT,  CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, ALASKA  MENTAL HEALTH                                                                    
TRUST AUTHORITY (via teleconference),  turned to slide 3 and                                                                    
detailed that  the trust existed  to serve Alaskans  in five                                                                    
basic   categories   including   individuals   with   mental                                                                    
illnesses,  intellectual and/or  developmental disabilities,                                                                    
Alzheimer's  disease and  related dementia,  traumatic brain                                                                    
injuries, and  substance use disorders. He  relayed that the                                                                    
trust  did  not  keep  a  list  of  Alaskans  it  considered                                                                    
beneficiaries.   He  elaborated   that  with   the  use   of                                                                    
population  density   assumptions  (nationally   and  within                                                                    
Alaska),  the trust  believed one  in  seven to  one in  ten                                                                    
Alaskans would be eligible for  AMHTA supports. He estimated                                                                    
the number to  fall between 70,000 and  110,000 Alaskans. He                                                                    
underscored  the  amount was  a  significant  subset of  the                                                                    
state's population.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  discussed  the trust's  financial  position  on                                                                    
slide 4.  He relayed that  the trust  had taken a  number of                                                                    
steps to enhance its financial  position since its inception                                                                    
in the mid-1990s. The chart  on slide 4 showed steady growth                                                                    
as a result of two  basic factors. First, the income derived                                                                    
from trust  lands that had  been invested and had  grown the                                                                    
trust's invested  assets. Second, the success  of investment                                                                    
managers  within APFC  and the  Department of  Revenue (DOR)                                                                    
had allowed  the trust to  withdraw funds  in the form  of a                                                                    
percent  of   market  value   (POMV)  style   payout,  while                                                                    
continuing  to see  appreciable  growth in  the total  asset                                                                    
base. He highlighted  that AMHTA was a  perpetual trust; its                                                                    
work was to support current and future beneficiaries.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:03:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  provided a  quick snapshot of  FY 22  funding on                                                                    
slide 5. The trust derived  its income from four basic types                                                                    
of  activities  (shown  on  the  left  side  of  the  slide)                                                                    
totaling  $34  million in  FY  22.  The total  reflected  an                                                                    
increase  of approximately  3 percent  in revenues  over the                                                                    
prior year.  The right side  of the slide showed  that AMHTA                                                                    
revenues had grown  between 2 and 5  percent annually, which                                                                    
was expected  to continue  in the  future. He  reported that                                                                    
income or  earnings from invested assets  (the trust's POMV)                                                                    
made  up the  majority of  its revenues  in any  given year.                                                                    
Additionally, there  were prior  year funds  carried forward                                                                    
and  income  from  land  management  activity.  The  funding                                                                    
comprised the $34 million it expected to spend in FY 22.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  turned to the  budget development  process AMHTA                                                                    
used annually  to plan  for the  allocation of  trust assets                                                                    
and   the   recommendations   the    trust   made   to   the                                                                    
administration  and  legislature   for  the  application  of                                                                    
general funds  (slide 6). He  believed the trust  was unique                                                                    
in having  the statutory  opportunity and  responsibility to                                                                    
make   recommendations  to   the   administration  and   the                                                                    
legislature and  for the  administration and  legislature to                                                                    
support the  recommendations or explain  why they  chose not                                                                    
to  support the  recommendations. He  shared that  the trust                                                                    
took the  unique opportunity seriously  and tried to  use it                                                                    
judiciously.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  continued to  address the  budgeting development                                                                    
process,  which involved  significant engagement  with AMHTA                                                                    
stakeholders.   He  elaborated   that  the   budget  process                                                                    
culminated every summer  and led AMHTA to  submit a proposed                                                                    
trust budget with its recommendations  for General Fund (GF)                                                                    
spending to  the administration by the  middle of September,                                                                    
which informed  the governor's proposed budget  [released] a                                                                    
few  months later.  He believed  the trust's  budget process                                                                    
finished  earlier in  order for  the administration  to have                                                                    
the benefit of the input in the development of its budget.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:06:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  moved to slide  7 showing a pie  chart depicting                                                                    
the  allocation of  FY 22  spending. The  orange and  yellow                                                                    
portions  of  the  chart accounted  for  approximately  one-                                                                    
quarter  of  the  total  trust  spend  and  included  agency                                                                    
budgets  for  the Trust  Authority  and  Trust Land  Office,                                                                    
respectively.  The two  segments included  a combination  of                                                                    
operational   and   administrative   spending.   The   Trust                                                                    
Authority was  housed within DOR  and the Trust  Land Office                                                                    
was housed  within DNR. The  green segment  reflected Mental                                                                    
Health   Trust   Authority  Authorized   Receipts   (MHTAAR)                                                                    
accounting for  one-quarter of  AMHTA spending.  He detailed                                                                    
that MHTAAR  was the authorized receipt  authority for state                                                                    
agencies  to  receive trust  funds  for  trust purposes.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that  typically  between   $8  million  and  $12                                                                    
million in  trust funds went  to fund state  agency efforts.                                                                    
The trust's  proposed FY  22 budget  included $8  million in                                                                    
MHTAAR funds  in several dozen different  allocations, which                                                                    
were all included in the governor's proposed budget.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  continued to review  FY 22 spending on  slide 7.                                                                    
The largest segment of the  slide reflected authority grants                                                                    
shown  in blue.  The category  was comprised  of grants  the                                                                    
trust  made  to   external  agencies  including  nonprofits,                                                                    
tribes,    local    governments,   and    other    community                                                                    
organizations.  The allocations  were  made unilaterally  by                                                                    
the  trust  and   the  spending  did  not   go  through  the                                                                    
legislative  process.  He  noted  that  agency  budgets  and                                                                    
MHTAAR  funds  required  legislative  concurrence  and  were                                                                    
primarily  incorporated in  the  mental  health budget,  but                                                                    
also in the capital and operating budgets.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:09:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott advanced  to  a comparison  of  elements in  the                                                                    
trust's FY 22 budget with  the governor's proposed budget on                                                                    
slide  8.  He pointed  out  that  the slide  only  contained                                                                    
allocations  where  there  was   a  difference  between  the                                                                    
trust's recommendation  and the governor's  proposed budget.                                                                    
The three  blue columns on  the left of the  table reflected                                                                    
the trustee  approved budget. The middle  blue column titled                                                                    
"GF/MH"   included  the   trust's  recommendations   for  GF                                                                    
spending. He pointed to the  yellow column on the right side                                                                    
of the  table and highlighted  that with one  exception, the                                                                    
governor did  not accept any of  the trust's recommendations                                                                    
for GF  spending. Alternatively,  the governor  proposed the                                                                    
appropriation of trust reserves for each of the line items.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  highlighted  that the  governor's  budget  also                                                                    
allocated $6 million  in AMHTA reserves to  fill a shortfall                                                                    
in the  Alaska Psychiatric Institute (API)  budget. He noted                                                                    
that an additional $6 million  shortfall was included in the                                                                    
governor's  supplemental   budget.  He  reported   that  the                                                                    
proposal was  a significant break from  precedent; there had                                                                    
never been an administrative  proposal or legislative action                                                                    
that  would  directly  appropriate  from  trust  assets.  He                                                                    
shared that in  a recent letter the AMHTA board  had sent to                                                                    
the House  Finance Committee, it  had described a  number of                                                                    
its specific concerns  with the approach. He  shared the two                                                                    
primary  concerns.  He  explained  that  the  use  of  trust                                                                    
reserves  in  the  governor's proposal  was  essentially  an                                                                    
overdraw  from trust  assets and  would  either require  the                                                                    
trust to  overdraw its  assets or  reduce trust  spending in                                                                    
other areas.  Additionally, the Department of  Law (DOL) had                                                                    
advised the  trust that the  approach directly  violated the                                                                    
expectations   spelled  out   in  the   settlement  of   the                                                                    
litigation that resulted  in the formation of  the trust and                                                                    
would   likely   be   a  breach   of   the   state's   trust                                                                    
responsibilities.  He  relayed  that additional  detail  was                                                                    
included in  the trust's letter  to the committee.  He noted                                                                    
there  was  a bit  more  information  further along  in  the                                                                    
presentation related  to the  reserves, which  would provide                                                                    
additional context for the concern.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:12:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  addressed the work of  the trust on slide  9. He                                                                    
detailed  that  the  trust's   work  was  generally  divided                                                                    
amongst  four  focus  areas  and   a  couple  of  additional                                                                    
priority areas. The established  focus areas were similar to                                                                    
its focus  in the past  several years. He reported  that the                                                                    
focus areas  supported all of the  trust's beneficiaries and                                                                    
were working in all areas of the state.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  moved to  slide  10  and reviewed  trust  grant                                                                    
impacts.  He reported  that some  of  the significant  grant                                                                    
contributions in the past 12 to  18 months were in grants to                                                                    
expand   substance  use   treatment   capacity  in   Alaska,                                                                    
including  $300,000  to  Akeela Inc  to  expand  residential                                                                    
treatment  in  Anchorage;   $125,000  to  SeaView  Community                                                                    
Services Recovery  Housing Program  in Seward;  and $300,000                                                                    
to Set  Free Alaska's new residential  treatment facility in                                                                    
Homer. Additionally,  the trust  had engaged  in significant                                                                    
investments  to  prevent  and end  homelessness  around  the                                                                    
state including Bethel, Anchorage, and Juneau.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  highlighted the trust's  longstanding commitment                                                                    
to  expand  and  reform  Medicaid.   He  detailed  that  the                                                                    
Medicaid expansion  and reform work  that began five  to six                                                                    
years  earlier   was  largely  funded   by  the   trust.  He                                                                    
elaborated that the trust had  made a $10 million commitment                                                                    
to the state,  which was expended over 4.5  years, which led                                                                    
to  the  expansion of  Medicaid  services  and the  Medicaid                                                                    
reform efforts,  including the  development of  the Medicaid                                                                    
Behavioral  Health Waiver  (the 1115  waiver). He  explained                                                                    
that the waiver had  expanded the behavioral health services                                                                    
fundable  through   Medicaid.  As   a  result   of  Medicaid                                                                    
expansion  and reform,  the state  had increased  the served                                                                    
population  by  70,000  without  increasing  any  additional                                                                    
state  GF  contributions.  He  relayed  that  a  significant                                                                    
percentage of  the base Medicaid  served population  as well                                                                    
as  the expansion  population were  trust beneficiaries.  He                                                                    
detailed   that   through  Medicaid,   beneficiaries   often                                                                    
received  the only  services available  to  them. The  trust                                                                    
continued to work  with DHSS to increase  the utilization of                                                                    
1115  services  and to  increase  providers'  access to  the                                                                    
systems, which  would expand  services to  beneficiaries and                                                                    
other Alaskans.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:16:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  moved  to  slide   11  and  discussed  COVID-19                                                                    
response grants.  He relayed  that about  one year  back the                                                                    
trust  recognized  the  pandemic was  having  a  significant                                                                    
impact  on providers  serving trust  beneficiaries and  as a                                                                    
result, it  had reallocated  funds in  its FY  20 and  FY 21                                                                    
budgets to  for approximately  $1.5 million  in the  form of                                                                    
grants   to   organizations    permanently   serving   trust                                                                    
beneficiaries.  The trust  had been  able to  get relatively                                                                    
small increments of $25,000 or  less out the door in several                                                                    
weeks to more than 70  providers around the state. The money                                                                    
typically arrived at  the agencies before some  of the other                                                                    
PPP [Paycheck  Protection Plan] or Coronavirus  Aid, Relief,                                                                    
and Economic  Security (CARES) Act  funding had  arrived. He                                                                    
elaborated  that  the  grants  were  often  used  as  bridge                                                                    
funding for  PPE [personal protective equipment]  and/or for                                                                    
improvements in telehealth  related technology and training,                                                                    
so that  those operations  were not  obligated or  forced to                                                                    
close their doors or reduce their service.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:18:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  addressed  the  trust's  recent  initiative  to                                                                    
improve Alaska's  psychiatric crisis care (on  slide 12). He                                                                    
stated  that  currently  a person  could  reasonably  expect                                                                    
throughout most of  Alaska that if they had  a medical issue                                                                    
or physical  health issue  (e.g., a  heart attack  or broken                                                                    
leg) that the available emergency  services would be fit for                                                                    
purpose.  He elaborated  the services  had properly  trained                                                                    
medical personnel with access  to systems that would address                                                                    
the patient's emergency needs. He  clarified that it was not                                                                    
the case for a behavioral  health crisis. He elaborated that                                                                    
like most  places around  the country, Alaska  did not  do a                                                                    
good job of providing psychiatric crisis care.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott   communicated  that  AMHTA  was   committed  to                                                                    
improving  the situation.  He expounded  that the  trust was                                                                    
working to bring in systems that  had been proven to work in                                                                    
other parts of  the country, scaled to the  size of Alaska's                                                                    
communities  and   to  working   with  local   agencies  and                                                                    
providers  to  create   emergency  response  capability  for                                                                    
individuals  dealing  with  mental  health  issues.  He  was                                                                    
pleased to say  that the trust's work  in larger communities                                                                    
and in  rural Alaska was  well underway. The  trust expected                                                                    
to  invest upwards  of $10  million in  the effort  over the                                                                    
next several  years in order  to bring the  programs online.                                                                    
He  reported that  long-term funding  for most  of the  work                                                                    
would  likely  be  available through  Medicaid  services  as                                                                    
described  in the  behavioral health  waiver. The  trust saw                                                                    
its  role as  a start-up  funder,  as an  agency that  could                                                                    
provide  funds to  help improve  systems to  experiment with                                                                    
new  service  types  and service  delivery  methods  and  to                                                                    
transition  the services,  when  successful, to  sustainable                                                                    
funding  streams.  He  stated   that  Medicaid  was  a  good                                                                    
example. The  trust fully  expected that  psychiatric crisis                                                                    
care  would be  [a successful]  example the  state would  be                                                                    
able to look back on after several years.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:21:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  spoke about the  Trust Land Office on  slide 13.                                                                    
He relayed  that the  activity of the  Trust Land  Office in                                                                    
managing the almost 1 million  acres of trust lands had been                                                                    
very successful  in the long-term  and in recent  years. The                                                                    
slide provided a breakdown of  the income the trust expected                                                                    
in FY  21. He  informed the  committee that  the anticipated                                                                    
revenue was  a significantly  larger amount  for FY  21 than                                                                    
was  typical.  He pointed  to  the  land category  near  the                                                                    
bottom  of  the  chart  and  stated  that  $22  million  was                                                                    
significantly  more than  the trust  typically expected.  He                                                                    
detailed  that the  FY 21  income included  the sale  of the                                                                    
trust's  subport parcel  in Juneau.  He elaborated  that the                                                                    
approximately 2.5  acre parcel was sold  to Norwegian Cruise                                                                    
Lines  a little  over  one  year back  for  $20 million.  He                                                                    
explained that  the revenue had cleared  the trust's account                                                                    
in the  current fiscal  year. He noted  were not  many other                                                                    
$20 million land parcels in the trust's portfolio.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  continued to  review slide  13. He  relayed that                                                                    
AMHTA had work  in every resource category in  the state and                                                                    
was actively managing  the trust lands in  order to generate                                                                    
income, which was its primary  land management objective. He                                                                    
stated that the  Trust Land Office did a great  job with the                                                                    
objective.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:23:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  addressed  trust  reserves   on  slide  14.  He                                                                    
informed the  committee that  the trust  maintained reserves                                                                    
in order to  create a buffer to allow for  trust spending in                                                                    
years  where  its  investments   did  not  meet  performance                                                                    
expectations.  The  reserves  enabled   the  trust  to  have                                                                    
meaningful  programmatic spending  even in  years where  its                                                                    
investment earnings  were insufficient to fund  its work. He                                                                    
relayed that  the reserves  and policies  the trust  used to                                                                    
manage  them was  described in  the  Trust Asset  Management                                                                    
Policy  Statement. He  explained the  document and  reserves                                                                    
policy had  been developed  with the  advice of  Callan (the                                                                    
same  advisor  who worked  for  APFC  and many  other  state                                                                    
funds). The trust's assets were  managed by APFC and DOR. He                                                                    
stated that  both agencies  did a great  job on  the trust's                                                                    
behalf  and  through  their  work, the  trust  was  able  to                                                                    
increase  its annual  spending.  The  reserves were  managed                                                                    
along  with  the  trust's   corpus  to  generate  investment                                                                    
earnings. He  explained that the  reserves helped  build the                                                                    
POMV yield annually, just like the corpus did.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott stated  that in  9 of  the last  24 years  AMHTA                                                                    
would not have  met its spending expectations if  it did not                                                                    
have reserves,  managed its funds  on a  year-to-year basis,                                                                    
and spent what  its investments earned within  that year. In                                                                    
five  of  the  years,  the trust  would  have  had  negative                                                                    
earnings  and  substantially  less  spending  available  for                                                                    
beneficiaries.  He noted  that  the  reality heightened  the                                                                    
importance of the reserves. He  likened the trust's reserves                                                                    
and corpus to the Permanent  Fund. He believed the Permanent                                                                    
Fund  and the  trust  funds were  essentially  the only  two                                                                    
funds managed with a distinction  between their earnings and                                                                    
their  corpus. He  explained that  most of  the other  state                                                                    
funds were managed like endowments  whereby the earnings and                                                                    
corpus were a single unit. The  only way the trust fund grew                                                                    
was  when the  trust deposited  funds  as a  result of  land                                                                    
management activity or a trustee  decision to transfer funds                                                                    
for inflation  proofing. He detailed  that the  trust valued                                                                    
its reserves  and relied on them  to allow for a  smooth and                                                                    
efficient   process   for    building   revenues   for   its                                                                    
beneficiaries.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:27:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  looked at  the  volatility  the trust  reserves                                                                    
experienced  on slide  15. He  explained that  because, like                                                                    
the Permanent Fund,  only the trust's reserves  moved up and                                                                    
down with  earnings, there  was significant  volatility even                                                                    
within  short periods  of time.  He  pointed to  a chart  on                                                                    
slide 15 and noted that  18 months earlier, the reserves had                                                                    
dipped  below  their  target  line.  Since  that  time,  the                                                                    
reserves    had   appreciated    dramatically   and    grown                                                                    
significantly.  He relayed  that  the target  line had  been                                                                    
established  based  on  a  recommendation  from  Callan,  as                                                                    
equaling  400  percent  of the  trust's  annual  payout.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that the  FY  21 annual  payout  was almost  $25                                                                    
million,  as a  result 400  percent was  slightly less  than                                                                    
$100 million.  He highlighted that  the trust's FY  20 year-                                                                    
end balance was  $160 million. The trust expected  to end FY                                                                    
21  with approximately  $175 million  to $225  million as  a                                                                    
result  of  strong  investment  performance  during  FY  21.                                                                    
Currently, the  balance was at  the upper end of  the range;                                                                    
if the balance  was sustained through the end  of the fiscal                                                                    
year, it would be the year-end position.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:29:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott continued to discuss  trust reserves on slide 16.                                                                    
He relayed  that when reserves  exceeded the  target amount,                                                                    
the asset  management policy statement obliged  the trust to                                                                    
consider  inflation-proofing the  corpus.  He  noted it  was                                                                    
also  described as  one of  the statutory  opportunities for                                                                    
the trust. He explained it was  a process that had not taken                                                                    
place for several  years but was currently  taking place. He                                                                    
added that after the presentation  had been submitted to the                                                                    
committee  the previous  week, the  AMHTA finance  committee                                                                    
had  met and  recommended to  the full  board a  transfer of                                                                    
$120 million  from reserves into  the corpus to  satisfy the                                                                    
outstanding inflation  proofing liability. He  detailed that                                                                    
because the  trust had not performed  inflation proofing for                                                                    
several years, the  liability had grown to  the $120 million                                                                    
level.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  returned to  a chart slide  4 showing  the trust                                                                    
invested assets. He  pointed to the bar on the  right for FY                                                                    
20  and  highlighted  that  the  blue  portion  of  the  bar                                                                    
represented the corpus and  the orange represented reserves.                                                                    
He  explained  that  if the  trustee's  endorsed  the  AMHTA                                                                    
finance  committee's recommendation,  the  orange bar  would                                                                    
decrease roughly  by half and  the blue bar  would increase.                                                                    
The  total height  of  the  bar would  remain  the same.  He                                                                    
detailed  that   the  transfer  would  not   impact  earning                                                                    
potential because  all of the funding  was currently managed                                                                    
for the same  yield. He explained that placing  the funds in                                                                    
the trust corpus would ensure  the assets would be available                                                                    
for future use by beneficiaries.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster thanked the presenters.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:32:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson thanked  the presenters  for their                                                                    
presentation. He understood that  the concept of a set-aside                                                                    
of lands  for mental health  needs dated back to  the 1950s.                                                                    
He asked  for verification the  state had inherited  a moral                                                                    
obligation   on   behalf   of   the   federal   government's                                                                    
responsibility during the territorial years.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott answered  that prior  to statehood,  the federal                                                                    
government  had  established   AMHTA,  dedicated  1  million                                                                    
acres, and  determined that revenue  from the land  would be                                                                    
designed to fund work and  services for trust beneficiaries.                                                                    
He relayed  that at statehood  the obligation to  manage the                                                                    
trust  was   transferred  to  the  Alaska   Legislature.  He                                                                    
explained that it  had led to litigation in  the 1980s where                                                                    
trust beneficiaries  had sued the state  suggesting that the                                                                    
trust was  being mismanaged. The  litigation had  settled in                                                                    
1994  and the  settlement  established  the trust's  current                                                                    
structure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  for  verification that  the                                                                    
federal government  had passed  the baton  to the  state and                                                                    
the state had a trust  responsibility of its own relative to                                                                    
"this institution."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  believed that  if the state  had a                                                                    
trust responsibility it should  defer to the wise management                                                                    
of  AMHTA. He  considered it  to be  the nature  of a  trust                                                                    
responsibility.  He  asked if  Mr.  Abbott  agreed with  the                                                                    
statements.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Abbott  agreed.   Effectively,  in   1994,  with   the                                                                    
concurrence of trust beneficiaries,  the trust had delegated                                                                    
the  responsibility for  the  day-to-day  management to  the                                                                    
trust authority, including the  responsibility for the lands                                                                    
and funds making up the trust.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:36:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson referenced  a series of obligations                                                                    
to  respect the  concept created  by the  federal government                                                                    
and  the  institution  created by  settlement  and  law.  He                                                                    
believed there was  an obligation of deference.  He asked if                                                                    
the state had  ever reached into the  trust reserves because                                                                    
it wanted to.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott answered in the negative.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson stated  there were  three sums  at                                                                    
issue  [in  the  governor's proposed  budget]  including  $6                                                                    
million for  FY 22 the  governor wanted to spend  from trust                                                                    
assets,  $6   million  in  the  [FY   21]  supplemental  for                                                                    
underfunding of  API, and  a smaller  sum for  mental health                                                                    
from AMHTA  recommendations. He remarked that  typically the                                                                    
items  would  not  be  fully  funded  with  trust  reserves.                                                                    
Otherwise,   he   surmised   they  would   not   be   called                                                                    
recommendations  and the  trust would  add them  to its  own                                                                    
list of funded programs. He asked for comment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott agreed.  He relayed  that in  the budget  detail                                                                    
provided by  the administration,  there was a  stated intent                                                                    
to draw further from trust reserves in future years.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  surmised the  administration  was                                                                    
indicating that  AMHTA should  get used to  the idea  of the                                                                    
draws.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  replied that  it  was  the  way the  trust  was                                                                    
hearing it.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  about the  $3.5 million  in                                                                    
lapsed funds from  the FY 21 budget. He asked  why the funds                                                                    
had lapsed and where they were currently located.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  replied that  typically out  of the  trust's $30                                                                    
million or  so, between 5 and  12 percent of funds  were not                                                                    
expended in a year allocated  based on a variety of reasons.                                                                    
He  reported  that AMHTA  was  working  hard to  reduce  the                                                                    
number.  He  highlighted  some  of  the  reasons  the  issue                                                                    
occurred.  He explained  that sometimes  a state  agency did                                                                    
not  fully expend  the  authority given  by  the trust,  the                                                                    
trust may underspend  its budget, or grants may  not be made                                                                    
in  the anticipated  manner. He  elaborated that  the lapsed                                                                    
funds  stayed  within  trust control  inside  its  operating                                                                    
account. The  operating account was used  to fund day-to-day                                                                    
operations and grant making.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  for  verification that  the                                                                    
intent was  to roll the lapsed  funds into the FY  22 budget                                                                    
instead of putting  them somewhere else such  as reserves or                                                                    
fulfilling a requirement.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  answered in the  affirmative. He added  that the                                                                    
amount varied  from year-to-year. He  noted it had  been the                                                                    
trust practice for several decades.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:40:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  referred  to   slide  8  showing  the                                                                    
governor's  proposed  budget  and the  trust  recommendation                                                                    
comparison. He remarked that the  numbers did not add up. He                                                                    
observed that the trustee  approved budget was approximately                                                                    
$24 million, while the governor's  proposed budget was about                                                                    
$21 million. He  looked at the various columns  on the slide                                                                    
to reconcile  the difference  and referenced  the governor's                                                                    
increase of  $6 million for  an increase to  client services                                                                    
at  API. Additionally,  there was  a reduction  to AHFC  for                                                                    
special needs  housing and  housing assistance.  He believed                                                                    
the difference between  the two budgets was  not $6 million,                                                                    
but  about $3  million. He  asked  for the  accuracy of  his                                                                    
statement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott  replied in the  negative. He clarified  that the                                                                    
list on  slide 8 only  reflected projects where there  was a                                                                    
difference  between the  governor's proposal  and the  trust                                                                    
recommendations. He  clarified that the MHTAAR  columns were                                                                    
the  only  trust  funds  on the  slide.  The  GF/MH  columns                                                                    
referred to recommendations the  trust made for General Fund                                                                    
spending  and  the  same  was   true  for  AHFC.  The  trust                                                                    
typically  made   recommendations  for   the  use   of  AHFC                                                                    
programmatic  work  as  well. He  explained  that  the  blue                                                                    
columns  [reflecting the  trustee approved  budget] and  the                                                                    
yellow and gold columns  [reflecting the governor's proposed                                                                    
budget] were not designed to be comparable.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon asked  for  verification  that in  the                                                                    
current  presentation, AHFC  was providing  the funding  for                                                                    
special needs housing and housing assistance.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott answered  that  AHFC  was providing  substantial                                                                    
funding, along with some AMHTA funding.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon referenced  the [governor's  proposed]                                                                    
increment of $6  million to support client  services at API.                                                                    
He asked  whose client  services were being  supported under                                                                    
the  proposal.  Additionally,  he  asked if  AMHTA  and  API                                                                    
shared many of the same clients.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  responded  that  the  increment  identified  as                                                                    
supporting client  services was  in the  governor's proposed                                                                    
budget.  He believed  it was  generally how  API's operating                                                                    
work  was described,  which included  most  of the  agency's                                                                    
budget. He explained that the  governor was not recommending                                                                    
AMHTA fully  fund API, there  were still substantial  GF and                                                                    
other funding  streams supporting API. He  highlighted there                                                                    
was one  specific funding stream  anticipated for FY  21 and                                                                    
FY 22 that would  not materialize. Consequently, rather than                                                                    
backfilling with  GF, the administration had  proposed using                                                                    
AMHTA funds. He  confirmed that many to most  of the clients                                                                    
served at API would be considered trust beneficiaries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:44:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  looked  at  slide  8  and  stated  his                                                                    
understanding that  the trust  was managed  by APFC  and was                                                                    
set up very  similar to the Permanent Fund  with an earnings                                                                    
reserve and  POMV draw. He  remarked that the trust  had not                                                                    
ever  exceeded  the  POMV  draw.   He  elaborated  that  the                                                                    
governor's proposal  was to  pull $10.2  million out  of the                                                                    
trust reserves.  He observed that the  situation was similar                                                                    
to the issue  facing the legislature where  the governor had                                                                    
proposed  overdrawing  the  5 percent  POMV  draw  from  the                                                                    
Permanent Fund  Earnings Reserve Account. He  noted that the                                                                    
trust's  draw  was lower  than  5  percent. He  thought  Mr.                                                                    
Abbott  had  referenced  a  legal   opinion  the  trust  had                                                                    
obtained regarding the overdraw. He asked for detail.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  answered  that  the   effect  of  enacting  the                                                                    
governor's proposed  [FY 21] supplemental  and FY  22 budget                                                                    
would be to  draw an additional $16 million  from the trust,                                                                    
which was  over and  above the  established POMV.  He stated                                                                    
that instead  of the established  draw of 4.25  percent, the                                                                    
governor's proposal would  draw between 7 and  8 percent. He                                                                    
relayed  the governor's  proposed draw  was not  sustainable                                                                    
for  AMHTA. He  elaborated that  if  the action  were to  be                                                                    
taken, which  was not the trust's  recommendation, the trust                                                                    
would likely  have to  reevaluate the  rest of  its spending                                                                    
and   make  sufficient   reductions   in   order  to   avoid                                                                    
overdrawing its funds to the  extent that would otherwise be                                                                    
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott addressed  Representative Wool's  question about                                                                    
legal  guidance. He  detailed that  AMHTA's primary  counsel                                                                    
was  DOL.  He elaborated  that  DOL  had advised  the  trust                                                                    
regarding the impact  of the proposed action  on the state's                                                                    
trust  responsibilities. He  elucidated that  the trust  had                                                                    
not  been  given  a  chance  to  consider  the  [governor's]                                                                    
spending recommendations  through its budgeting  process. He                                                                    
did  not  know  that  the  trust  would  have  endorsed  the                                                                    
proposal; however, it worked closely  with state agencies on                                                                    
its budgeting work year-round. He  explained that all of the                                                                    
MHTAAR increments on slide 8  and others not included on the                                                                    
slide because there was no  deviation between the governor's                                                                    
proposal and  the trustee approved  budget, were  all worked                                                                    
out during  the trust's  annual budgeting  process typically                                                                    
in  June  through August.  He  informed  the committee  that                                                                    
AMHTA did  not learn about  the proposal to use  trust funds                                                                    
for  API or  any other  purposes until  the budget  had been                                                                    
released in  December. The trust  did not get the  chance to                                                                    
evaluate  or  coordinate  with  the  administration  on  the                                                                    
proposals.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:49:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  noted that  DOL advised AMHTA  and also                                                                    
worked for  the governor.  He stated his  understanding that                                                                    
DOL had  told the  trust the overdraw  of $16  million would                                                                    
break the  trust's law. He  noted that under  the governor's                                                                    
proposal  the POMV  draw  would  reach 7  to  8 percent.  He                                                                    
understood that  if the draw  was approved, the  trust would                                                                    
have  to  subtract  the  $16 million  from  other  items  it                                                                    
normally spent on.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott replied  that  Representative Wool's  statements                                                                    
were generally accurate.  He did not want to  speak for DOL.                                                                    
He referred  to the letter  sent to the committee,  which he                                                                    
had signed and  DOL had helped to prepare.  He believed some                                                                    
or all of  the spending proposed by the  governor would have                                                                    
to  be  offset  by  commensurate  reductions  in  the  trust                                                                    
proposed spending.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  asked  for  verification  that  the                                                                    
proposed use  of funds in  the governor's budget had  been a                                                                    
surprise  to   the  trust  and   there  had  not   been  any                                                                    
collaboration with  the trust  on the  $6 million  and other                                                                    
changes to the  budget. She asked if it was  uncommon to see                                                                    
a new proposal in the governor's budget.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbot  confirmed that  the proposal  was a  surprise and                                                                    
that it was uncommon.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  referenced   slide  11  related  to                                                                    
COVID-19 response  grants. She  stated the slide  showed the                                                                    
trust received  $1.5 million in  COVID response  grants. She                                                                    
asked if  there was more  funding available or if  the trust                                                                    
received  as  much  as  it  could  through  available  COVID                                                                    
grants. She wanted  to give the governor the  benefit of the                                                                    
doubt in thinking  that some of his proposed  DHSS funds may                                                                    
be able  to be  recovered or matched  by federal  funds. She                                                                    
asked  if Mr.  Abbott could  foresee any  additional federal                                                                    
funding in the future that may be helpful.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:52:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Abbott  answered  that  the  trust  was  not  currently                                                                    
proposing  additional COVID  funding from  trust assets.  He                                                                    
explained that the  trust's goal in April had been  to get a                                                                    
little bit  of money  out the  door as  soon as  possible to                                                                    
provide  early funding  for  agencies  that were  ultimately                                                                    
supported  through  a variety  of  other  state and  federal                                                                    
programs  (e.g.,  PPP,  CARES  Act  funding,  etcetera).  He                                                                    
elaborated that the state had  run an excellent program that                                                                    
supported  a number  of nonprofits  and other  providers. He                                                                    
shared  that  the  state had  sought  the  participation  of                                                                    
numerous  other funders  in the  work, which  the trust  had                                                                    
participated  in. He  believed it  had worked  well for  the                                                                    
state  and recipients.  He  explained  that if  beneficiary-                                                                    
serving  programs  did  not  get  their  needs  met  through                                                                    
federal programming, the  trust would definitely contemplate                                                                    
stepping back into  the role. The trust  was working closely                                                                    
with provider networks and individual  providers to see that                                                                    
needs were addressed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson appreciated the response.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Abbott thanked  the committee for its  interest in AMHTA                                                                    
and its purpose. He appreciated the consideration.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:54:55 PM                                                                                                                    
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RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  AIDEA  FY  22  BUDGET,  RESERVE  AND  CREDIT                                                                  
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:00:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALAN   WEITZNER,  EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR,  ALASKA   INDUSTRIAL                                                                    
DEVELOPMENT  AND EXPORT  AUTHORITY, DEPARTMENT  OF COMMERCE,                                                                    
COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
addressed a PowerPoint  presentation titled "AIDEA Overview,                                                                    
Budget Reserve  + Credit Summary: House  Finance Committee,"                                                                    
dated March  9, 2021 (copy  on file). He planned  to provide                                                                    
abbreviated  comments  on the  majority  of  the slides  and                                                                    
would  stick  to  some  of the  more  important  slides  for                                                                    
discussion. He  referenced a  letter from  Alaska Industrial                                                                    
Development and  Export Authority  (AIDEA) addressed  to the                                                                    
legislature  dated January  8,  2021 including  a review  of                                                                    
Alaska   Industrial  Development   and  Export   Authority's                                                                    
(AIDEA) FY  20 assets. The  letter was provided  annually to                                                                    
the legislature  pursuant to AS 44.88.205.  He detailed that                                                                    
AIDEA   was  created   by  the   legislature  as   a  public                                                                    
corporation.  The  authority  was  a  political  subdivision                                                                    
within the  Department of  Commerce, Community  and Economic                                                                    
Development (DCCED) with a separate legal existence.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner  elaborated  that  AIDEA  was  managed  by  an                                                                    
independent  board composed  of seven  members nominated  by                                                                    
the  governor   (five  from  the  private   sector  and  two                                                                    
delegated by  the commissioners of DCCED  and the Department                                                                    
of  Revenue). The  authority had  been  investing in  Alaska                                                                    
since  its establishment  in  1967 and  it  operated as  the                                                                    
state's  development finance  authority.  The authority  had                                                                    
initially been created to issue  and finance conduit revenue                                                                    
bonds and  had grown to  incorporate a broad  range directly                                                                    
investing in Alaska. The agency  was self-sustaining and did                                                                    
not  draw upon  the  General Fund.  He  elaborated that  the                                                                    
agency used its  returns to meet its operating  costs and to                                                                    
reinvest in projects in Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner  relayed  that  AIDEA  had  reported  positive                                                                    
statutory  net income  and declared  dividends to  the state                                                                    
since  1995.  The  agency had  declared  dividends  totaling                                                                    
$439.7 million to  date to the state's  General Fund through                                                                    
the dividend  statute. Overall, with AIDEA's  bonds and loan                                                                    
programs, the agency  had directed over $3  billion into the                                                                    
state for  economic development purposes. He  noted that the                                                                    
$440 million dividends to the  state was beyond the agency's                                                                    
initial  capitalization received  from  the legislature  and                                                                    
through  designated programs  at the  Department of  Revenue                                                                    
(DOR) in the  1980s. The agency had grown  its balance sheet                                                                    
from a very small base to  the $1.6 billion he would address                                                                    
in the presentation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:04:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner spoke  to AIDEA's statute 44.88 on  slide 3. He                                                                    
stated  that   AIDEA's  purpose  was  to   increase  private                                                                    
investment within  Alaska. The  agency had  been established                                                                    
to issue taxable  and tax exempt bonds  to acquire ownership                                                                    
interest  in projects  and  to  provide development  project                                                                    
financing.  He highlighted  that the  statute identified  it                                                                    
was in  the state's  interest to  import private  capital to                                                                    
create new  economic activity. He  stated that  AIDEA filled                                                                    
its  mission  for  economic  development  within  Alaska  by                                                                    
working primarily with the private sector for investment.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:05:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner turned  to slide 4 and  reviewed AIDEA programs                                                                    
and projects as of FY 20.  He noted that the projects worked                                                                    
in  concert  with the  letter  provided  to the  legislature                                                                    
dated  January 8.  He noted  that the  letter provided  much                                                                    
more  detail  about  programs and  individual  projects.  He                                                                    
highlighted  the   impact  of  the  COVID-19   pandemic.  He                                                                    
elaborated that  AIDEA initiated emergency  programs through                                                                    
its board  to address the  pandemic and its  economic impact                                                                    
on Alaska's businesses.  He reported that AIDEA  had been at                                                                    
the  forefront  of  the state's  response  to  the  pandemic                                                                    
beginning with  Governor Mike Dunleavy's state  of emergency                                                                    
issued  on  March  11,  2020.   The  board  had  implemented                                                                    
emergency  regulations  and  programs,   one  of  which  was                                                                    
adapted into  the AK  CARES program  with DCCED.  The agency                                                                    
had  provided close  to  $282 million  in  grant funding  to                                                                    
slightly over 5,500 small businesses throughout Alaska.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  continued to  review slide  4. He  shared that                                                                    
AIDEA had adapted its business  export assistance program to                                                                    
provide guarantees  to Alaska's banks and  credit unions for                                                                    
extending credit to existing borrowers.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner moved to slide  5 and discussed AIDEA programs.                                                                    
He stated  that the  emergency programs included  the impact                                                                    
seen across  all of  the programs.  He highlighted  that the                                                                    
$461 million loan participation  portfolio had been impacted                                                                    
by  requests for  loan modifications.  He  reported that  in                                                                    
working  with  local banks,  the  agency  identified that  a                                                                    
little over 80 out of  300 loans were modified; however, the                                                                    
80  loans  represented close  to  44  percent of  the  total                                                                    
portfolio. The  agency had been impacted  by conduit revenue                                                                    
bonds. He  explained that the program  principally supported                                                                    
Alaska's access  to the healthcare sector  within the state.                                                                    
Over time, the agency had  issued a little over $1.6 billion                                                                    
in conduit  revenue bonds, including  close to  $200 million                                                                    
in 2020. He looked at  the project finance category on slide                                                                    
5 and  stated that individual projects  and developments had                                                                    
been  impacted as  well.  The agency  had  been required  to                                                                    
provide  some  modifications under  some  of  the loans  for                                                                    
businesses  heavily impacted,  particularly  within the  oil                                                                    
and gas sector.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:08:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner moved  to  slide 6  and  continued to  address                                                                    
AIDEA  programs.  He addressed  infrastructure  development,                                                                    
which  included bringing  larger  project developments  that                                                                    
were   high-impact   for   Alaska.  The   agency   initiated                                                                    
development   and  worked   with  the   private  sector   in                                                                    
fulfilling  the  development  to be  construction-ready.  He                                                                    
used  the Ambler  Access  Project as  an  example. He  spoke                                                                    
about   the  agency's   sustainable   strategy  for   energy                                                                    
transmission and supply (SETS)  directed towards energy. The                                                                    
fund  had  funded  the  IEP  [Interior  Energy  Project]  in                                                                    
Fairbanks  and  the  SSQ  [Sterling  Substation  and  Quartz                                                                    
Creek]  line  extension  for the  Bradley  Lake  project  in                                                                    
collaboration with the Alaska Energy Authority.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner discussed  the  agency's  small business  loan                                                                    
programs  administered through  DCCED [slide  6]. The  loans                                                                    
were directed  towards rural communities as  well as smaller                                                                    
businesses within the state that need additional support.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  turned to a map  of Alaska on slide  7 showing                                                                    
AIDEA  project and  asset locations.  The  slide showed  the                                                                    
impact  of AIDEA's  projects and  loans in  2020. He  shared                                                                    
that  in  fulfilling  its mission  for  economic  growth  in                                                                    
Alaska,  AIDEA  had been  a  resource  for many  communities                                                                    
across  the state.  He detailed  that much  of the  economic                                                                    
development  and  jobs  supported by  AIDEA's  programs  and                                                                    
project  financing had  resulted in  responsible development                                                                    
of Alaska's  natural resources and  economic diversification                                                                    
projects. He  explained that AIDEA  acted as a  catalyst for                                                                    
the economic development within  communities. He stated that                                                                    
public funding  gained from taxes on  commercial real estate                                                                    
development through the  agency's loan participation program                                                                    
or infrastructure  and natural resource  development through                                                                    
project  finance  activities  significantly  contributed  to                                                                    
economic security within the communities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner advanced  to slide  8 and  highlighted AIDEA's                                                                    
project investment and finance,  which led to infrastructure                                                                    
development. He  shared that  currently under  the different                                                                    
sectors  within Alaska,  AIDEA had  invested  a little  over                                                                    
$600  million   in  projects  to  date.   He  gave  examples                                                                    
including the FedEx hangar at  the Ted Stevens International                                                                    
Airport in Anchorage,  the Coast Guard addition  to the JBER                                                                    
[Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson]  facilities, the Ketchikan                                                                    
shipyard,  the Skagway  ore terminal,  and working  with Hex                                                                    
LLC  in  the  Cook  Inlet. The  program  supported  Alaska's                                                                    
industrial sector  under a  P3 [public  private partnership]                                                                    
structure   where   AIDEA   worked   with   private   sector                                                                    
investment. He  relayed that in  some cases AIDEA  owned and                                                                    
leased the facilities or provided  lending to the operation.                                                                    
He stated  that the direct  investment was provided  under a                                                                    
long-term capital basis. The  agency analyzed the investment                                                                    
opportunity   and   approached   investment  from   a   risk                                                                    
management standpoint in  its underwriting. Investments were                                                                    
based  purely on  feasible economic  structures. He  relayed                                                                    
that AIDEA was not structured  by the legislature to provide                                                                    
subsidies.  The  agency  provided opportunities  for  growth                                                                    
capital  within  the  state   based  on  supported  economic                                                                    
structures that provided a return  on the capital for future                                                                    
investment into Alaska.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:12:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  advanced to slide 9  titled "Financial Summary                                                                    
FY2020."  He relayed  that AIDEA's  audited statements  were                                                                    
provided to  the legislature  on January  8, 2021.  He noted                                                                    
the  audited   statements  were  required  to   be  provided                                                                    
annually by January 10 under  AS 44.88.205 and AS 44.88.210.                                                                    
He  highlighted  that  AIDEA had  three  distinct  areas  of                                                                    
investment.  The   first  was  the   Enterprise  Development                                                                    
Account for the Loan Participation  Program in the amount of                                                                    
$456.9  million.  The  second was  the  Development  Project                                                                    
Finance  area   including  projects  funded   under  AIDEA's                                                                    
revolving fund  and capital  assets on  the books  under the                                                                    
revolving fund. He  noted that projects were  invested for a                                                                    
return,  while  capital  assets  were  economic  development                                                                    
projects   residing  on   AIDEA's   portfolio  under   asset                                                                    
management.  He  explained  that  AIDEA did  not  receive  a                                                                    
return   on  capital   assets.   He   used  the   Snettisham                                                                    
Hydroelectric Project  [in Juneau]  and the Alaska  Ship and                                                                    
Dry Dock in Ketchikan as examples.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner continued  to review  the development  project                                                                    
finance category on slide 9.  Other projects included in the                                                                    
category fell under  the SETS program. He  detailed that the                                                                    
program  was initially  funded through  an appropriation  by                                                                    
the  legislature of  $145 million;  about  $125 million  was                                                                    
invested into  the Interior Energy  Project or  Interior Gas                                                                    
Utility  in Fairbanks,  which had  been  provided with  zero                                                                    
cost funding  for the first  15 years and marginal  25 basis                                                                    
point   return   funding  for   the   next   35  years.   He                                                                    
characterized  it as  patient  capital.  He highlighted  the                                                                    
Arctic  Infrastructure Development  Fund  that was  recently                                                                    
funded  with  a  dedication  of  $35  million  from  AIDEA's                                                                    
revolving fund in  support of the Ambler  Access Project. He                                                                    
detailed  that AIDEA  had  recently  concluded an  agreement                                                                    
with  Ambler  Metals where  AIDEA  would  commit up  to  $35                                                                    
million  in  matching  funds  (matching  the  company's  $35                                                                    
million)   for   the   final  feasibility   and   permitting                                                                    
activities of development of the road.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:15:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner reviewed other assets  on AIDEA's balance sheet                                                                    
on slide 9 including capital  reserves of $398.9 million. He                                                                    
expounded that  AIDEA had  accumulated the  reserves through                                                                    
its successful  investments. The money had  been accumulated                                                                    
in  cash  for  reinvestment  into  the  state  for  projects                                                                    
currently  within  AIDEA's  pipeline. The  capital  reserves                                                                    
were  currently AIDEA's  only source  of capital  for future                                                                    
investment and ongoing projects.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner stated  that  when  aggregating projects  that                                                                    
were  not  providing  a  return   to  AIDEA,  the  long-term                                                                    
financing supported  through the SETS fund  for the Interior                                                                    
Gas Utility,  and expenditures for the  restructuring of the                                                                    
Mustang Project not currently providing  a return, AIDEA had                                                                    
$370 million in assets (out of  the net $1.4 billion) on the                                                                    
books  not providing  a return.  Ultimately when  looking at                                                                    
the  revenues and  cashflow portion  of the  slide, the  net                                                                    
base was slightly above $1  billion, which was producing the                                                                    
agency's  revenue. The  revenue was  allowing the  agency to                                                                    
meet  its operating  costs. He  explained  that through  the                                                                    
dividend  statute, AIDEA  recognized and  reported statutory                                                                    
net income and AIDEA's board  would declare a dividend based                                                                    
on the  income (somewhere  between 25 to  50 percent  of the                                                                    
statutory net income).                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  relayed that over  the last two years  in 2019                                                                    
and  2020 AIDEA's  board had  declared the  full 50  percent                                                                    
dividend.  The  FY  20  dividend was  $17.3  million  to  be                                                                    
distributed to  the General  Fund in FY  22. He  pointed out                                                                    
that in FY 19 and FY  20, AIDEA reported over $80 million in                                                                    
each  of  the years;  however,  by  accounting standards  it                                                                    
included   unrealized   gains   in   investment   securities                                                                    
(representing  unrealized gains  from the  capital reserve).                                                                    
The number was slightly under $20  million in FY 19 and over                                                                    
$20  million  in  FY  20.  He  pointed  out  that  based  on                                                                    
operations, AIDEA ran  at a level of about  $60 million. The                                                                    
agency's operating  expenses were  fairly even at  about $30                                                                    
million  up  to  $32  million.  The  agency's  non-operating                                                                    
revenue  expenses  fluctuated  relative  to  the  underlying                                                                    
projects  and in  some cases  when the  projects were  sold,                                                                    
which  was  the  case  in 2018  with  Pentex  informing  the                                                                    
Interior  Gas  Utility  there  was   an  impact  on  AIDEA's                                                                    
operating  income.  He  stated  that  ultimately  AIDEA  had                                                                    
statutory net  income that  was fairly  stable at  about the                                                                    
$30  million level  pending its  investment in  new projects                                                                    
and growing  the asset/project base  with the  dedication of                                                                    
its capital  reserves and bringing AIDEA's  project pipeline                                                                    
to  fruition  for  investment in  the  underlying  projects.                                                                    
Typically, AIDEA had  returned between 3.5 to  10 percent on                                                                    
the  projects  based  on  the   risk  margins  assessed  for                                                                    
investment underwriting. He noted  it also depended on which                                                                    
program   the  investment   was  under   -  the   Enterprise                                                                    
Development Account or project finance activities.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:20:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  reported on AIDEA's bonding  capacity on slide                                                                    
10.  The authority's  bonding capacity  was  subject to  and                                                                    
determined  by  the  external  credit  rating  agencies  and                                                                    
AIDEA's  current credit  standing. He  shared that  prior to                                                                    
2019, AIDEA  held AA+ credit  ratings from S&P and  Aa3 from                                                                    
Moody's. He detailed that within  2019, Moody's had issued a                                                                    
downgrade  lowering the  rating to  A2. Additionally,  AIDEA                                                                    
had received  a notification from  S&P that it  would review                                                                    
the  agency's credit  rating during  2019. He  reported that                                                                    
AIDEA had  taken the  action of  defeasing $39.7  million in                                                                    
outstanding general  obligations and  closed out  the credit                                                                    
ratings. The agency  did not currently have  a credit rating                                                                    
on  the  market.  He  explained that  AIDEA  would  need  to                                                                    
reinitiate the process in order to do any bonding.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner  continued to  address  slide  10. The  credit                                                                    
rating agencies had viewed the  use of different reserves to                                                                    
meet  the state's  budget deficiencies  and had  highlighted                                                                    
issues attached to the options.  The agency had presented to                                                                    
the  credit rating  agencies and  the  historical focus  had                                                                    
been the use  of the dividend statute  in AIDEA transferring                                                                    
funding to the General Fund.  He informed the committee that                                                                    
AIDEA's    capacity    in   providing    future    financing                                                                    
opportunities was  dependent on the credit  rating agencies'                                                                    
view of  the current issues  with the dividend  statute, the                                                                    
use  of  reserves,  and the  availability  of  reserves  for                                                                    
future  financing and  investment.  He  reported that  AIDEA                                                                    
currently had bond authorizations  that had been approved by                                                                    
the  legislature  for up  to  $145  million to  finance  the                                                                    
infrastructure  and construction  costs of  the Bokan-Dotson                                                                    
Ridge Rare  Earth Elemental Project  (up to $125  million to                                                                    
finance the  infrastructure) and  construction costs  of the                                                                    
Niblack  project.  He  relayed  that AIDEA  had  up  to  $65                                                                    
million    to   finance    the   expansion,    modification,                                                                    
improvement, and upgrading of the Skagway ore terminal.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner reported that AIDEA  was undergoing a review of                                                                    
its  investment   programs  and   portfolios  for   ways  of                                                                    
accessing  external credit  and securitizations.  The agency                                                                    
was looking  at its  loan participation program  and seeking                                                                    
an  asset-base security  structure. There  was and  had been                                                                    
over  $1 trillion  per  year in  these  types of  securities                                                                    
issued  by  different  agencies   like  AIDEA  for  programs                                                                    
similar to  the loan  participation program. He  stated that                                                                    
AIDEA  was  actively looking  at  ways  of raising  external                                                                    
sources  of capital  and augmenting  its  balance sheet  and                                                                    
investment activities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:24:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner addressed  the proposed FY 22 fund  draw in the                                                                    
governor's budget  on slide 11.  He referenced  the proposed                                                                    
fund draw within the governor's  budget. He highlighted that                                                                    
AIDEA supported  the governor's  operating budget.  He noted                                                                    
that the authority passed Resolution  G-2101 in January 2021                                                                    
showing  the   organization's  support  of   the  governor's                                                                    
proposed  operating budget.  He  referenced page  54 of  the                                                                    
governor's budget  where AIDEA  was identified  as declaring                                                                    
the dividend  for the  General Fund.  He noted  the dividend                                                                    
amount was $17,305,000 for FY  22. The original amount was a                                                                    
placeholder  pending  AIDEA's   board  declaration  for  the                                                                    
dividend.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  referenced the fund capitalization  item under                                                                    
Section 22,  item (x)  in the  governor's budget,  which was                                                                    
equal to 15  percent of all revenue from taxes  levied by AS                                                                    
42.55.011  that was  not  required to  be  deposited in  the                                                                    
Constitutional Budget  Reserve (CBR). The  governor's budget                                                                    
appropriated the amount estimated at  $60 million to the oil                                                                    
and gas  tax credit fund  (AS 43.55.028). He noted  that the                                                                    
$60  million was  an  estimated figure  and  related to  the                                                                    
royalties to be received on  Alaskan crude oil production in                                                                    
FY  22. He  reported that  the estimate  of $60  million was                                                                    
made at the current forecast  of $48 per barrel. He remarked                                                                    
that the  oil market  had recovered  since the  estimate had                                                                    
been put  in place;  oil prices  continued to  fluctuate and                                                                    
were  currently  above $60  per  barrel.  The Department  of                                                                    
Revenue had provided its fall  2020 forecast presentation to                                                                    
the  House  Finance  Committee  on  February  22,  2021.  He                                                                    
referenced  slide   21  in  DOR's  presentation   where  the                                                                    
department  highlighted that  a  $1 increase  in the  Alaska                                                                    
North Slope  crude price led  to an approximate  $25 million                                                                    
to $30  million increase in unrestricted  general fund (UGF)                                                                    
revenue.  He pointed  out  that given  the  increase in  oil                                                                    
price,  the appropriation  may not  be needed,  depending on                                                                    
the use of  funds. He noted that if the  fund draw occurred,                                                                    
it  would  come  from  AIDEA's capital  reserves  of  $398.9                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  continued to review  slide 11. He  stated that                                                                    
AIDEA's capital reserves were its  primary source of capital                                                                    
for  new   and  ongoing  investments.  He   stated  that  an                                                                    
alternative use  (opportunity cost)  of the $60  million was                                                                    
in  the investments  AIDEA would  be making  in current  and                                                                    
future  projects within  the state.  The returns  on AIDEA's                                                                    
projects  ranged  from  3.5   to  9  percent.  Additionally,                                                                    
projects  created   or  retained   jobs  for   Alaskans  and                                                                    
generated local/state  tax and  royalty income.  He reported                                                                    
that the  reinvestment into  communities contributed  to the                                                                    
Permanent  Fund,   particularly  in  the   natural  resource                                                                    
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:28:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner  discussed  responsible  resource  development                                                                    
AIDEA  was undertaking.  The upcoming  slides addressed  the                                                                    
1002 Area  lease sale,  the Ambler  Access project,  and the                                                                    
West Susitna  Access project. The topic  addressed accessing                                                                    
Alaska's  abundant  natural  resources  and  the  associated                                                                    
economic development opportunity. He  stated that Alaska was                                                                    
blessed  with abundant  natural resources;  however, it  was                                                                    
increasingly   being  limited   in  its   access  to   those                                                                    
resources.  He remarked  that  the  development of  Alaska's                                                                    
resources not  only provided an important  domestic resource                                                                    
for the country's demand for  base and strategic metals such                                                                    
as oil and gas, but it  also produced royalties to the state                                                                    
and  contributed  a portion  of  the  royalties to  Alaska's                                                                    
future endowment  in the Permanent Fund  and provided needed                                                                    
funding to Alaska's communities.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner discussed the Section  1002 area lease sale and                                                                    
the leases  AIDEA had won under  bid. He was able  to answer                                                                    
any questions the committee may  have on the topic. Slide 14                                                                    
answered  some principal  questions on  the benefits  of the                                                                    
sale.  He noted  that slide  15 reviewed  the Ambler  Access                                                                    
project  and  benefits. He  thanked  the  committee for  its                                                                    
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:30:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson referenced  slide  12 that  called                                                                    
the  projects responsible  resource  development. He  stated                                                                    
that  there were  numerous Alaskans  who had  concerns about                                                                    
the responsibility  of the Ambler  project. He asked  if the                                                                    
statement  was   fair.  He  stated  there   was  significant                                                                    
criticism  of  the  Ambler mining  project  from  local  and                                                                    
tribal constituencies.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner stated his understanding of the question.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   clarified  his   question.   He                                                                    
understood   that  AIDEA   wanted  to   support  responsible                                                                    
resource development. However,  there were constituencies to                                                                    
the west  of the project  and primarily to the  southeast of                                                                    
the  project that  were profoundly  concerned about  whether                                                                    
the project could be developed responsibly.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner believed  it  was a  fair  statement that  the                                                                    
communities  had  expressed  concern about  the  responsible                                                                    
development for the Ambler Access project.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  referenced the shared  expenses of                                                                    
$35 million  by AIDEA and  $35 million by Ambler  Metals. He                                                                    
asked if it was true that  Ambler Metals would not be paying                                                                    
the $35  million because it  would receive a  credit related                                                                    
to  the cost  of tolling  on the  road. He  asked if  Ambler                                                                    
Metals would truly contribute $35 million.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  responded that the company  was committing $35                                                                    
million and would be funding  the amount for the feasibility                                                                    
and permitting activities leading  to the development of the                                                                    
road.  The  credit  would  only  occur  once  the  road  was                                                                    
developed and in use. He  explained that AIDEA and the state                                                                    
had  committed  funds  to  the road,  which  they  would  be                                                                    
recovering  in proceeds  under the  toll  or use  agreements                                                                    
from  any parties  using the  road. He  detailed that  AIDEA                                                                    
would be  recovering its  investment in  the road  and would                                                                    
use the  funds to reinvest  in other projects. He  stated it                                                                    
was similar  to what  Ambler Metals  was looking  to receive                                                                    
for   its  contribution   for  development   of  the   road.                                                                    
Ultimately, the company would receive  a credit or a reduced                                                                    
payment on the toll road.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:34:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   appreciated  the   answer.   He                                                                    
mentioned the Arctic  Infrastructure Development Fund (AIDF)                                                                    
and asked if there was any  concern with statutes that put a                                                                    
cap on the loan amount. He  asked if it was being challenged                                                                    
or litigated that  AIDEA had breached the cap  on the amount                                                                    
under AIDF.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  answered that he  did not believe there  was a                                                                    
concern. He was not aware  of any concern within AIDEA about                                                                    
the  issue.  He  relayed  that AIDEA  would  be  owning  the                                                                    
operating  entity of  the Ambler  Access Road.  He explained                                                                    
that  AIDEA was  directly investing  funds into  the project                                                                    
development with  Ambler Metals.  He elaborated that  once a                                                                    
final  investment decision  had been  made, the  AIDEA board                                                                    
would be an  owner. He clarified that AIDEA  was not loaning                                                                    
funds to a third-party operator.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:35:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  noted that Mr. Weitzner  had mentioned                                                                    
AIDEA  had been  founded  in  1967. He  what  the state  had                                                                    
originally invested to capitalize AIDEA.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner replied  that the  initial capitalization  for                                                                    
the  establishment   of  the   authority  was   minimal.  He                                                                    
explained  that  AIDEA had  been  established  as a  conduit                                                                    
revenue bond issuer  where AIDEA acted as the  tax exempt or                                                                    
taxable authority  for issuance of the  bonds. He elaborated                                                                    
that later in  the 1970s and 1980s a DOR  loan pool had been                                                                    
transferred to  AIDEA as the  initial capitalization  in the                                                                    
sum of  about $200 million,  which had created  AIDEA's loan                                                                    
participation  program. Subsequently,  with the  development                                                                    
of  the Delong  Mountain  Transportation  System, there  had                                                                    
been a  transfer and appropriation of  additional funds plus                                                                    
$15  million in  cash  capital to  AIDEA.  In aggregate  the                                                                    
initial capitalization in  appropriations by the legislature                                                                    
was $309 million.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  stated that  AIDEA had paid  the money                                                                    
back and then  some. He referenced slide 6  related to AIDEA                                                                    
programs. He shared  that when he had worked  in the banking                                                                    
sector, he  had participated on  loans with AIDEA and  had a                                                                    
working knowledge  of how the  agency functioned.  He looked                                                                    
at  the small  business  loans category  and discussed  that                                                                    
AIDEA currently  had two direct  loan programs to  help with                                                                    
long-term  financing for  startup  and  expansion for  small                                                                    
businesses. He  asked for  detail. He  asked if  the program                                                                    
was squeezing  banks out of  the specific  lending category.                                                                    
He  asked how  the program  was different  from what  a bank                                                                    
could do for borrowers.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:38:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner  responded  that  one  of  the  AIDEA's  small                                                                    
business loan programs was  the Rural Development Initiative                                                                    
Fund, which  provided loans up  to $300,000 for  the startup                                                                    
or expansion of businesses  in communities with a population                                                                    
of 5,000 or less as long  as they were not connected by road                                                                    
or   rail  to   Anchorage  or   Fairbanks.  Otherwise,   the                                                                    
population cap  was 2,000 for communities  connected by road                                                                    
or rail.  He relayed  that very  little financing  was being                                                                    
provided to  rural communities and  AIDEA's program  was one                                                                    
of the  more important  programs -  administered by  DCCED -                                                                    
providing  financing  for   startups  and  initiating  small                                                                    
businesses  in-state.  The  second  program  was  the  Small                                                                    
Business  Economic Development  Program that  provided fixed                                                                    
asset loans  and working capital  up to $300,000.  The fixed                                                                    
asset loans could go out to  20 years and were primarily for                                                                    
small  businesses  across Alaska  as  defined  by the  Small                                                                    
Business Administration.  The loans required  matching funds                                                                    
via private  financing. The program  worked in  concert with                                                                    
the financial  sector. He relayed  that a large part  of the                                                                    
funding  went  to  commercial  fishermen,  who  had  limited                                                                    
access to financial capital within the state in some cases.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked for  verification that  from the                                                                    
commercial  banking  point  of  view in  Alaska,  AIDEA  was                                                                    
filling a niche with the  loan programs and was not crowding                                                                    
out  the banking  community from  making  loans. He  assumed                                                                    
that if a  bank wanted to make the loans,  there was nothing                                                                    
to  prohibit them  from  doing  so. He  asked  if AIDEA  was                                                                    
pricing the  loans at an  interest rate that made  them more                                                                    
attractive than what a bank could offer.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  answered that the  loans did not  compete with                                                                    
the  financial sector  within the  state. He  believed rates                                                                    
were fixed at prime  plus [inaudible] percent. He elaborated                                                                    
that the loan  rates were within what the  banks provided in                                                                    
Alaska. He  believed it came down  to an issue of  access to                                                                    
capital.  He  detailed  that   the  programs  were  operated                                                                    
differently   than   reviews   by  the   financial   sector;                                                                    
therefore, there  may be more opportunity  for the borrowers                                                                    
to  use AIDEA's  loan  program versus  going  directly to  a                                                                    
bank. He  added that one  of the programs required  that the                                                                    
borrower  had  been declined  by  the  financial sector.  He                                                                    
relayed  that the  programs were  not structured  to compete                                                                    
with Alaska's banks and credit unions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon stated  that  in the  early 1980s  the                                                                    
state had a small business  loan program. He shared that the                                                                    
program had required the borrower  to submit a letter from a                                                                    
bank  specifying  the loan  request  had  been declined.  He                                                                    
relayed that he had small  business owners coming to see him                                                                    
at the  bank just to  ask for  the letter. He  reported that                                                                    
borrowers had not  wanted to present a loan  proposal to him                                                                    
because at  the time, the state's  repayment terms, interest                                                                    
rates, fees,  and collateral  requirements were  better than                                                                    
what the banking  community could offer. He  believed it had                                                                    
been a  bit too political  in its loan approval  process and                                                                    
that a few too many marginal  loans had been made. He stated                                                                    
that the  entire program  had ended after  the shake  out in                                                                    
the  state's economy  in the  mid-1980s. He  stated that  he                                                                    
knew AIDEA was doing it right.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:42:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz turned  to slide  13 related  to the  1002                                                                    
area lease sale.  He noted there had  been substantial media                                                                    
coverage when the  lease sale had gone forward.  He asked if                                                                    
it  was the  first time  AIDEA had  participated in  a lease                                                                    
sale.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner answered  that it was the first  time AIDEA had                                                                    
directly participated  in an initial lease  sale program. He                                                                    
highlighted that  from AIDEA had  interacted with  leases in                                                                    
its experience  with the  oil and gas  sector in  Alaska. He                                                                    
relayed  that   through  the  Mustang  project,   AIDEA  had                                                                    
acquired or transferred leases within  the area to an entity                                                                    
wholly owned  by AIDEA.  He noted that  the 1002  area lease                                                                    
sale was  not the only  process AIDEA  had with oil  and gas                                                                    
leases within  Alaska; there were other  situations that had                                                                    
occurred in  Cook Inlet.  He reiterated  that the  1002 area                                                                    
lease  sale was  the first  direct lease  sale program  with                                                                    
federal oil and gas.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Ortiz  looked   at   bullet  3   on  slide   13                                                                    
highlighting  that AIDEA  had submitted  bids  on 11  tracts                                                                    
worth  just under  the agency's  authorized $20  million. He                                                                    
remarked that the  lease cost was annual. He  asked what the                                                                    
annual cost would be for AIDEA to hold the leases.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner  answered that AIDEA  had an  annual obligation                                                                    
of $39 million in aggregate on the 10-year leases.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked about the  opportunity costs  of the                                                                    
funds. He wondered what other  areas the funds may have been                                                                    
used in if they were not tied up in the 1002 lease sale.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner replied that the  funds would come from AIDEA's                                                                    
capital  reserves. He  detailed  that $20  million had  been                                                                    
transferred   from  the   revolving  fund   to  the   Arctic                                                                    
Infrastructure  Development Fund  in order  to ensure  AIDEA                                                                    
could  encumber its  obligation for  the acquisition  of the                                                                    
leases and obligations in the  first year. He explained that                                                                    
on  an ongoing  basis, which  would be  reviewed by  AIDEA's                                                                    
board, additional  funds would have  to be dedicated  to the                                                                    
AIDF  on an  ongoing basis.  The funding  would come  out of                                                                    
capital  reserves  and  would   otherwise  go  toward  other                                                                    
investment  opportunities  in  Alaska. He  highlighted  that                                                                    
with the decision  made by the board for  the opportunity in                                                                    
the lease  tracts, AIDEA looked at  the economic development                                                                    
aspects that  came with  the investment.  He stated  that if                                                                    
AIDEA was  allowed to reach  development on the oil  and gas                                                                    
leases  that  were  ultimately  viewed  to  be  1.4  million                                                                    
barrels  of oil  per day  through the  Trans-Alaska Pipeline                                                                    
System  (TAPS),   it  would  bring  engagement   with  local                                                                    
communities, employment, and tax  based benefits, which made                                                                    
it  one  of the  major  investment  opportunities for  AIDEA                                                                    
within the state.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:47:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  asked about AIDEA's risk  assessment on                                                                    
the  [1002  area  lease sale]  project.  He  referenced  Mr.                                                                    
Weitzner's  statement   that  AIDEA  looked   at  everything                                                                    
through a risk lens. He  noted slide 13 specified that AIDEA                                                                    
was the  highest bidder on 9  out of 11 tracts.  He asked if                                                                    
AIDEA was the only bidder on the tracts.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner answered  that AIDEA  had looked  at the  USGS                                                                    
record  for  the   initial  geotechnical  studies  available                                                                    
across the section  1002 area. He explained  that the record                                                                    
had been updated  in 2005 and 2010.  Additionally, AIDEA had                                                                    
looked at the assessment  of the Congressional budget office                                                                    
and  an  analysis  conducted  by  a  Congressional  Resource                                                                    
Committee for  the 2017 Tax  Budget Act passed  by Congress.                                                                    
He explained that  AIDEA had used all of  the information in                                                                    
aggregate  regarding  the economic  development  opportunity                                                                    
and the royalty stream that  would be available to the state                                                                    
from AIDEA's  development of the  tracts. He  confirmed that                                                                    
AIDEA was  the highest bidder.  He clarified that  AIDEA had                                                                    
presented a minimum  bid across the 11  tracts. He expressed                                                                    
that there was  a very high optionality  associated with the                                                                    
investment by  AIDEA and  with the  development oil  and the                                                                    
contribution  in royalties  to the  state, AIDEA  found that                                                                    
the benefits outweighed the initial investment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  referenced Mr. Weitzner's  testimony it                                                                    
was the first  time AIDEA had participated in  a lease sale.                                                                    
He  looked at  AIDEA's  other investments  such  as Red  Dog                                                                    
Mine, IGU,  the Ketchikan Shipyard,  a hotel in  Valdez, and                                                                    
the  Ambler Road.  He observed  that in  the other  projects                                                                    
AIDEA  partnered with  a private  entity. He  remarked there                                                                    
was no private entity involved  in the 1002 area lease sale.                                                                    
He thought  AIDEA was speculative  that it would be  able to                                                                    
sell the leases  in the future. He noted that  two other oil                                                                    
companies  had bid  on  the  tracts, but  none  of the  "big                                                                    
three"  had submitted  bids. He  asked if  it had  concerned                                                                    
AIDEA. He  noted that  Mr. Weitzner  had mentioned  USGS and                                                                    
the  potential oil  going  into the  pipeline.  He asked  if                                                                    
AIDEA had also assessed  that almost every available capital                                                                    
fund had already said they would  not invest in the area. He                                                                    
asked if the  information had been included  in AIDEA's risk                                                                    
assessment. He  considered that  perhaps it  was not  a good                                                                    
investment, which  was the reason other  major oil companies                                                                    
were  staying away.  He asked  why  AIDEA had  gone in  solo                                                                    
without a P3 partnership.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:50:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzer  responded  to Representative  Wool's  question                                                                    
about the  absence of a  private partner in the  project. He                                                                    
associated  the  project  with  AIDEA's  effort  to  include                                                                    
infrastructure  development  in  its programs.  He  reported                                                                    
that AIDEA  had not initiated  the Ambler Access  Project or                                                                    
any roads  to resources  projects (it was  currently looking                                                                    
at to  provide access to Alaska's  resources) with partners.                                                                    
He elaborated that AIDEA had  developed partners through the                                                                    
development of  the road in  the Ambler Access  Project with                                                                    
the  receipt of  the joint  record decision  on the  federal                                                                    
aspects of  the route.  He noted  the joint  record decision                                                                    
had   been   a  key   milestone   and   had  initiated   the                                                                    
conversations with Ambler Metals  about the final stages for                                                                    
feasibility   and  permitting   hopefully   leading  to   an                                                                    
investment decision  for the  road. He  noted it  would take                                                                    
full agreement by all of  the landowners along the route. He                                                                    
remarked there was significant work ahead.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner  related the  way  AIDEA  had engaged  in  the                                                                    
Section 1002  area in  a similar way.  He stated  that AIDEA                                                                    
was  established  by  the  legislature  to  attract  private                                                                    
capital and investment to Alaska.  One of the agency's roles                                                                    
was  acting   as  a  key   partner  and   understanding  the                                                                    
requirements  of the  private  sector  structures they  were                                                                    
looking to  put in place  and how project  developments came                                                                    
together.  The   agency  also  acted  as   a  go-between  on                                                                    
difficult issues relating to land  and other. He highlighted                                                                    
the  initial way  AIDEA  had become  involved  in the  FedEx                                                                    
hangar  at   the  Ted  Stevens  International   Airport.  He                                                                    
explained  that initially  there  had  been some  reluctance                                                                    
working  with the  Department of  Transportation and  Public                                                                    
Facilities (DOT)  on land issues.  He elaborated  that AIDEA                                                                    
had acted as  the go-between and had entered  into the lease                                                                    
with  DOT.  Subsequently, AIDEA  had  built  the hangar  and                                                                    
leased it to FedEx. He reported  that the hangar had been in                                                                    
consistent operation for 20 years.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner   believed  there   was  a  similar   role  in                                                                    
addressing  distinct  conservation  issues  related  to  the                                                                    
state's   rights  under   Alaska  National   Interest  Lands                                                                    
Conservation  Act (ANILCA)  for Section  1002. He  saw AIDEA                                                                    
playing the key role in  responsible development of the area                                                                    
through  engagement  with  the  private  sector.  He  viewed                                                                    
AIDEA's investment in the tracts as defining the key role.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner addressed  Representative Wool's question about                                                                    
how  AIDEA assessed  the  reluctance  of external  financial                                                                    
institutions  and  the  decisions the  institutions  may  be                                                                    
making about  future investment in  the Arctic.  He reported                                                                    
that  AIDEA  was  focused  on  developing  Alaska's  natural                                                                    
resources and ensuring Alaskans  had access to the resources                                                                    
and the  associated economic development  benefits currently                                                                    
and in the  future. He furthered that AIDEA saw  its role in                                                                    
addressing  the  concerns  of  the  financial  community  by                                                                    
highlighting  how Alaska  had  always responsibly  developed                                                                    
its natural  resources and identifying that  Alaska had some                                                                    
of the  strictest conditions and  requirements of  any other                                                                    
environment, particularly  with oil  and gas  development on                                                                    
the North Slope. He stated  it would be an education process                                                                    
to  bring the  parties in  to work  with AIDEA.  He believed                                                                    
there  should  still  be  room   for  those  parties  to  be                                                                    
investing in the State of Alaska  based on the merits of the                                                                    
investment.  He elaborated  that  in the  case  of the  1002                                                                    
area,  merits  included the  fact  that  development on  the                                                                    
North Slope worked hand in hand with conservation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:55:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  referenced  the  AIDEA  dividend  that                                                                    
ranged between 25 to 50  percent. He observed that AIDEA had                                                                    
paid a dividend of about 33  percent in 2018 and close to 50                                                                    
percent  in the  past  couple  of years.  He  asked how  the                                                                    
agency came up with the number.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner  answered  that   the  amount  was  determined                                                                    
through  an  analysis  of   the  underlying  operations  and                                                                    
discussion  with  the  board.   He  explained  there  was  a                                                                    
definition and calculation that  identified a maximum amount                                                                    
based  on the  statutory net  income. The  boundaries of  25                                                                    
percent  and 50  percent were  provided in  the conversation                                                                    
with the  board. He  reported there  were areas  of reserves                                                                    
that  needed  to  be  put  in place  as  well,  which  AIDEA                                                                    
modified.  Ultimately, the  total dividend  was declared  by                                                                    
the board.  He relayed  that in  2019 and  2020 the  full 50                                                                    
percent had been declared.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  stated  that the  Senate  Finance                                                                    
Committee held  a hearing on  March 1 and had  learned AIDEA                                                                    
would do a  cost-benefit analysis on the  Ambler project. He                                                                    
noted  that  AIDEA  had  done  an  independent  cost-benefit                                                                    
analysis  for  the  Red  Dog Mine  decades  back.  He  asked                                                                    
whether  AIDEA would  seek a  similar cost-benefit  analysis                                                                    
for Ambler.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Weitzner responded that  the cost-benefit analysis would                                                                    
be done with  independent support. He stated it  was part of                                                                    
the  process,  as  it  had been  with  the  Delong  Mountain                                                                    
Transportation  System.   He  shared   that  AIDEA   had  an                                                                    
independent  assessment on  the  cost-benefit analysis  with                                                                    
the review  for the  record decision  and the  process would                                                                    
continue.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  shared that  he had  been co-chair                                                                    
of the House  Resources Committee in 2018.  He recalled that                                                                    
Ambler  Metals   had  reported  it  could   build  the  road                                                                    
independently and without  use of state funds.  He asked how                                                                    
AIDEA could have known that  the project could not have been                                                                    
developed  without its  assistance.  He asked  if AIDEA  had                                                                    
looked into the issue to see  whether it had to make its own                                                                    
investment or  whether Ambler Metals or  Trilogy would front                                                                    
the costs.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Weitzner  stated  his  understanding  of  the  question                                                                    
related to Ambler Metals. He  highlighted that the record of                                                                    
decision for the route, the  right of way grants signed with                                                                    
the Bureau of  Land Management, and the right  of way permit                                                                    
with  the  National Park  Service,  resided  with AIDEA.  He                                                                    
noted  that  AIDEA  was  the applicant  for  the  route.  He                                                                    
furthered  that if  Ambler Metals  were to  seek to  build a                                                                    
road independently,  it would require  going through  a full                                                                    
permitting  process, which  would delay  them for  a lengthy                                                                    
period of  time. He  believed AIDEA's  development agreement                                                                    
with Ambler  Metals represented the  fact that  the entities                                                                    
were  working  in  partnership on  the  existing  route  and                                                                    
record of decision that had  been reached. The entities were                                                                    
working  together on  the  road that  AIDEA  was looking  to                                                                    
develop.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:59:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  thanked Mr. Weitzner for  his presentation.                                                                    
He reviewed the schedule for the following day.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
AMHTA 030921 H FIN PPT.pdf HFIN 3/9/2021 1:30:00 PM
AIDEA Excess Capital Letter (1.8.21) for HFIN (3.9.21).pdf HFIN 3/9/2021 1:30:00 PM
AIDEA Presentation for House Finance Committee (3.9.21).pdf HFIN 3/9/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB71 CS Workdraft Mental Health CS-0.5 v.I.pdf HFIN 3/9/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 71
HB71 CS Workdraft Mental Health CS-0 v.B.pdf HFIN 3/9/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 71
HB 69 Distribution of Bargaining Unit Salary Adjustments030821.pdf HFIN 3/9/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 69 OMB Requested Structure Differences 030821 .pdf HFIN 3/9/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
HB69 OP CS Workdraft Budget CS-0.5 v.I.pdf HFIN 3/9/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 69
HB69 CS Workdraft OP Budget CS-0 v.B.pdf HFIN 3/9/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 69